Turkey needs to be Kurdish from the discussion with Turkish nationalists Anonymous User wrote on 27/10/2007 23:13 clock:
"This is natural . Right of each country " countries / states do not have" natural rights "., Possibly political duties and rights
Anonymous User wrote:
" It really works but only about the PKK (terrorist) to stop terror . Turkey to exercise " It says the Turkish propaganda, but" it's not just "wrote the PKK, but to ensure the cultural identity for more than 10 million Kurds
Anonymous user.
"Turkey wants to ensure the internal security of the area belongs to the task every state." Turkey "...", But she wants to be Kurdish, if it does not break on the Kurdish conflict, or want to become a criminal state.
Anonymous User wrote:
"If Iraq does not succeed, Turkey would have to perform such operations as in the past already." Turkey "creates" it is not already on the Turkish territory. Then it will not create more than bloodshed on Iraqi territory, ie not either.
Anonymous User wrote:
"the PKK, which for 25 years is no rest." I am opposed to the PKK, as it is a fake pile of year Year with "unilateral cease-fire offer in the winter break, but does not separate from the armed struggle and severally-nationalist bluster discharges. But the PKK is only one aspect of the problem. The other side is the Turkish nationalism and often militaristic state terrorism, is intolerable for the national minorities.
Anonymous User wrote:
"Turks and Kurds live peacefully together in Turkey in any case, most of them fight together against the PKK and protest against it together." The path to such a reality is far away. And to get that only if Turkey is Kurdish.
Anonymous User wrote:
"In Turkey, not the oppressed tell the Turks that the Kurds are our brothers and fellow citizens." brother Cain slew Abel. This is only Bible story, but a thousand times in the real crime. And often enough is the talk of the brotherhood of hypocrisy. If
Turkish Kurds say "brother" or "fellow citizens", then I am happy only if they make Turks honest and admit that the Turkish state was not really a common cause of all nationalities who live within that State. But it might be possible to make up for by the national policy is changed and Turkey multicultural.
Anonymous User wrote:
"something like this rarely heard in Europe of foreigners living here and the Turks and Kurds." complain to those at which you miss it, but not with me, because I really promote multiculturalism as a political priority.
Anonymous User wrote:
"Every war is bad, but sometimes does not get around it." Then you'll see the war is not "bad" enough.
Anonymous User wrote:
"Why does the PKK are not easy to have around 30 000 Turkish soldiers. in the last 25 years, died recently re-present 12th " you count the dead of the PKK with the war is not common crimes of those who have nothing better to think of as a war
Anonymous User wrote:..
" Is it clear that Turkey is serious that must end " You suggerierst that war would bring a solution The suggest warmongers always, but the war has been underway for decades work of destruction, misery, murder -.. that is his." solution .
I tell you, as I say to the fans of the PKK: With weapons can only destroy the country, so that millions seek their fortune in foreign lands. But luck is not always easy to obtain.
Anonymous User wrote:
"Turkey is a democratic country we have not Öcalan killed ..." This is a good thing. But do not forget about that first the death penalty was intended. Have you written then it? I wrote against the death penalty in the Ocalan case, because the Töterei without self-defense is a crime anyway. No matter who it is.
Anonymous User wrote:
"... we are not invaded now ..." That would have been no walk. If you mean "we" write what you mean by that? The fact that you "marched" wert? Be happy that you had to not and do not pretend that someone would have to thank you for it. For if you're still alive, have killed anyone and was not killed. Be glad.
Anonymous User wrote:
"... ... and we did not like the U.S. and Israel responded with war." Be glad that you're Israeli or not Ami, for the Einmaschieren is probably better than the designs coming. And I would not know what you had to gain from all this. Tell me this, so I can thank you and knows what you renounce the difference to me. Otherwise, you should thank the fate that you were allowed to stay home and not risking legs, arms or life must be tested.
nationalists formed to readily admit that they are owed something different. But I'm not owe you. At most, advice to think and: That I prevent nationalists in the war. And this shall run better for you. So people like me.
Anonymous User wrote:
. We try diplomacy not only long there will soon start the real war. " who "we"? Consider yourself with? Then try this forum to develop your Kurdish political objectives diplomatically. Only "security" and meet "national unity" as targets, but rather would be stagnation in the problems All around, talk = no diplomacy.
Anonymous User wrote:
"Turkey is not shared ..." With such saying you're not a diplomat, but a prophet. Even prophets are wrong.
Anonymous User wrote:
"Turkey will not be divided, as the land and the people living there have become one." They were maybe times in moments when it went against external enemies. But some, based on hostility break, and are perpetuated only in new enmities and alliances. Therefore it is important that the unity is based on positive values. What values can call you, it develop true?
Anonymous User wrote:
"I do not understand how to combat the country which you live and where you live." Then you have to listen to the "fighters". Their reasons for killing are not true, "understand" but if you have it yet, otherwise you have no points of contact for your diplomacy>>
www.inidia.de / unverstand.htm Anonymous User wrote:
"The would be the same as if the Turks want to be living here in Germany, part of NRW and make terror. " mistake - and we often hear such nonsense. Nonsense mainly because the Kurds in Turkey were not "immigrants" are. With such comparisons deprived of Turkish nationalism, the Kurdish minority, making them virtually to "foreigners".
nonsense but also because you provizierst with such sayings German xenophobia, would you complain about then.
Anonymous User wrote:
. "This issue is much deeper vile It started with the 2nd Wltkrieg and the cry of Israel by the British Prime Minister." And in China downed a bag of rice. It is the typical crap of nationalism, internal grievances on Foreign things . Slide Also begins the story of the Ottoman nationalism not only at the end of WW2.
Anonymous User wrote:
"This is a political game, but Turkey has checked it and will fight against it." too, is "typical nationalist", to jabber into a global political role of victim and conclusions to stir up nationalism. Let me be clear: Without Israel, excluding the U.S., not EU, Turkey would have the same problems. If you had written that Turkey would occur hearty, if not for the U.S. and EU would, then you would have sincerely expressed to you by the Turkish government still expect more violence in the Kurdish conflict.
Anonymous User wrote: "I hope you find
despite the tense situation for a peaceful solution through diplomatic level, which is very hard to believe but thanks to the cooperation of Iraq at the time." No, Thou shalt not "hope diplomatic level" on which, if you to it except the blame to others (eg Iraq) nothing comes to mind.
What you can: Diplomatic formulate goals and help Erdogan that he can not drive by the nationalists in a war adventure, because far more soldiers will die than in recent weeks. - Without even one of the problems would be solved.
Remember
you simply set:
Turkey must be Kurdish. There is no other alternative if you is up to Turkey's national unity. The alternative to a Kurdish Turkey would otherwise be the partition of the country.
Regards Mark Rabago
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